In addition to the chain working on the rear cogs and rear derailleur the chain must be compatible with the front chain rings. The spacing between front rings for a 8 or 9 speed chainring set will be relatively wide. Using a narrow 10 or 11 speed chain may result in the tendency for it to fall between the two rings during a shift. Drivetrain manufacturers design their chains to work as a system with the derailleurs, rear sprockets, and shift levers. Chains can vary in side plate shape, sizing, and height.
Differences can cause variations in shifting performance between brands and models. Additionally, chains will vary in the quality of steel used. Better chains that are more durable and longer lasting tend to have harder rivets. Riding a bike tends to wear and thin the rivet as it is pulled against the inner plates.
When in doubt about chain selection, it is usually best to stick the the drivetrain manufacturers chains. If you have a Shimano speed drivetrain, a SRAM chain will work fine and vice versa, however manufacturer's recommend pairing your components for optimal performance. SRAM was the first manufacturer to produce speed components. The SRAM Eagle speed chains are cross compatible with one another — the only variance between them is weight and material. With the new AXS eTap speed electronic road groups, SRAM developed flat top chains, which allows for a quieter drivetrain as well as added strength and durability.
Within these three groups, the flattop chains are cross-compatible i. Campagnolo also has their own proprietary speed chains that work with their groupsets, specifically the Chorus, the Record, and the Super Record 2x12 groups.
While these chains are cross-compatible with one another, always keep Campy with Campy. The only component manufacturer to attempt speed cassettes is Campagnolo. Recently, they released the 1x13 Ekar group for gravel bikes. This group has a special speed chain that is hyper specific for this group. Do not try to put a speed Campy chain on this group - it simply won't work.
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Some exceptions apply. PhoS Dec 18, at Myself and my two sons do Enduro Racing in Sweden - lots of mud. XX1 chains constantly snap. My friends are experiencing the same. I only have experience with these two SRAM chains. The chains are switched between a derailleur drivetrain jig and a friction testing jig at regular intervals at W and 90rpm. You can see that the chains become most efficient after a few hours and then start to degrade again as the wax coating wears.
PhoS : yup. I work on hidious stromer ebikes full time They use them to get away from belgian traffic and getting to work 50km a 50km back. And i call it a spaghetti chain. It's flat here so they use only 1 cog of their 1x 11 set up. When some guy 's live in more hilly parts of the country or learn how to ride a bike and actually shift , the chain goed kmers further.
Man i love moutainbikes It's like suspensions, nobody open them after 50 hours of usage. But at least chains are easier to maintain. A buddy of mine was in the National Guard and he gave me this teeny tiny little bottle of gun oil they use called CLP. Clean lubricate protect. The stuff smelled terrible but I swear I could actually feel the difference when riding. Moral of the story the worse it smells the better it works and the government has the best chemicals.
Triflow also stinks but works pretty good. Connerv6 Dec 17, at You can buy CLP at any gun or sporting good shop too. Pedro's makes "ChainJ" lube that's biodegradable, non-toxic, smell is not abhorrent, and it's probably the best lube i've ever used in terms of slipperyness highly technical term.
Prolink works the best per frictionfacts , no smell. Parrafin is an amazing lubricant. Not Prolink. That stuff actually causes faster wear and more resistance. Squirt is the stuff!! Krimp Dec 17, at JDFF Dec 17, at JohanG Dec 17, at Froglube or gtfo.
Only the best for my Pivot and BCM midlength! Squirt works real well when applied regularly! Krimp : pick a dick, and lube it. DirtGuru2 Dec 17, at JDFF : But only the original stuff with the sweet smell. I think ceramic speed is fastest then silca nfs. I heat the chain to 40degC in a double water bath for first application Investing in a proper ultrasonic cleaner makes a huge difference compared with agitating in jar.
Squirt and Smoove are great. Parrafin is better, but requires a little more work. I've previously covered this topic in-depth for CyclingTips. Google "Holy Grail of Chain Lube" if interested. GlassGuy Dec 18, at My chain was becoming a creeky mess from all the spray offs and I didn't have any lube with me, so, I used the olive oil I had in the van for cooking.
The chain gets pretty gunky since the dirt sticks spray it off end of day and re-apply but I've also used olive oil in my brakes when I needed a bleed in a pinch I may try butter for the next trip. GlassGuy : Olive oil has actually been tested to be more efficient than many popular chain lubes!
It does, however, get sticky with exposure to oxygen and is known to oxidise metals if left on long-term. Works in a pinch, but not the best choice for keeping things clean. DaveRome : yep And if you're someone or a race team trying to brag about being more "earth friendly" , then this is a solid option as long as you clean almost daily and then reapply before a ride Lol Sorry forgot to say No Kids!! GlassGuy : If only there was a cover for your chain, so you did not need to lube your chain There could be a better solution?
RBalicious Dec 17, at Clear differences between brands? Lubricant is as important? Must be yanking my chain So all that effort to say, "whatever you already have is fine"?
Ktron Dec 17, at UtahBrent Dec 17, at Read the original article and you'll see that the differences are quite significant. Those statements only placate their advertisers and mislead us as the customer.
It's a disservice to those who make and sell superior products as well. Ktron : if you read a little deeper, the guy that does the testing uses this data to sell chains and lubes. It's a business expense at that point.
DaveRome : to be honest, I think most of us are even less likely to listen to a podcast than we are to read the study. VedranBaric Dec 17, at It would be interesting to test how chain growth primarily in full suspension frames and lateral movements affect the chain wear. Would be better putting your clean chain in a box! I have an Eagle setup now, and the shifting feels crunchy, even though I'm fastidious about keeping the drivetrain clean and the chain lubed.
I've kind of been hoping to burn up the SRAM drivetrain, but the chain has almost no wear after a hard season!!! Probably not-I'll go for the better shift quality of a Shimano drivetrain. But props to SRAM for durable chains and cassettes. Shimano 12 speed yes.
Considerably smoother shifting than SRAM. I wear out the 11spd SRAM cassette before the chains, which is getting expensive! I want to swap over to Shimano but then I have to buy a different driver, blah blah blah. Got a new bike with E13 12spd cassette and it felt really good, but, I sold it before I could determine durability. Basic store bought Paraffin Wax has been shown to boost you 5 watts in one test.
So what they saying is box is full of crap when they say their prime 9 stuff will last long because less gears. And also it's funny that sram chains are so freaking durable when it's the only thing they have that's not made in Asia but in Portugal of all places. Maybe they should move more of the manufacturing there. Ron-C Dec 17, at These geeky lab tests and maths are just fine, but the real test is getting out and riding each and every chain for thousands of miles.
Frankly, anyone who gets out to ride for thousands of miles each year will be so stoked on life that a few extra bucks to frequently replace worn out chains and a few more extra bucks to buy decent lube will seem a small price to pay. Can I run a Shimano chain with a Sram drive train? Or will my bike blow up??? Please help bc it is beginning to smoke! In the linked article the author says he runs an xtr chain on Sram Eagle AXS and it runs smoother and shifts better than if he had the Sram chain.
This article makes me wonder. I've recently upgraded to a 10sp drivetrain Shimano Zee after having been on 9sp. I understood you could run a 10sp chain on a 9sp drivetrain and be good or apparently better, according to this article.
Now that I am on 10sp, will I get even better performance shifting and durability if use 11sp chains now? I do that. My cross bike is 10sp and I use an 11 speed chain. My mountain bike is 10sp and I use an 11 speed chain. My road bike is 11sp and I use a 12 speed chain. Shifting is noticeably better. Wear on the cassette and chainrings is also noticeably better.
The link plates themselves could stay identical and so is the interface with the rivets the bit that typically fails. However, from what I take from the article it is like 7sp and 8sp chain link plates are flat whereas the link plates for more speeds are shaped to also take part of the load directly from the bushings so that actually puts less load on the pins.
Also, making the bushings and pins shorter to make the chain narrower actually reduces the load on the pin-plate interface already even without the specially shaped plates. Are you aware of the theory behind their statement that narrower chains would be weaker? I'm interested to hear why this would be as it kind of goes against my theory above.
This may go against conventional wisdom that older 8-, 9- and even speed systems offer wider cog widths, which provide increased surface area with the chain and should make them more durable. However, the opposite was true here" They compared a low end shimano HG40 8 speed chain and a middle end hg93 9sp chain to an ultegra 11 and xtr 12 chains. This is totally unconclusive about chains made for higher cogs being more efficient. Another conclusion could be that you can't buy anymore high end chains for older 8 and 9sp systems.
I'm not saying the assumption is not true, just that it would need some other data, like using some NOS dura-ace chains to find out why it is so.
Cowboi Dec 17, at Just remember, the more chains you use, the betterer.
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